Gentlemen, Ladies and those otherwise addressed - we know you've been waiting for a good thing, and the survey results are finally ready!
The answers were collected from you all during August 2020 with 1428 unique replies. That's a participation of 0.5% of all subscribers! That's really not too bad, when you keep in mind how popular these kind of surveys are. But we here at /peloton
want to show you that this is all about presenting the information in the subreddit to cater better to our audience! Updated after a few hours to include some
more historical data the final edit that for some reason wasn't copied properly
|Year ||2013 ||2014 ||2015 ||2016 ||2018 Mar ||2018 Aug ||2019 ||2020 |
|Results ||2013-06-12 ||2014-06-25 ||2015-08-07 ||2016-11-17 ||2018-03-06 ||2018-08-20 ||2019-07-22 ||2020-10-12 |
|Replies ||351 ||598 ||1395 ||892 ||630 ||928 ||986 ||1428 |
Without further ado, let's get cracking on the response
You and Cycling
1. Where do you live?
|Country ||2015 ||2016 ||2018 Mar ||2018 Aug ||2019 ||2020 |
|USA ||32% ||28.3% ||22.84% ||25.32% ||20.23% ||24.59% |
|UK ||18.6% ||17.6% ||14.70% ||20.13% ||15.48% ||14.80% |
|Netherlands ||6.4% ||9.4% ||11.50% ||11.58% ||10.01% ||11.01% |
|Germany ||3.73% ||3.4% ||4.95% ||6.39% ||7.84% ||6.65% |
|Denmark ||3.9% ||3.6% ||4.31% ||3.79% ||7.64% ||5.79% |
|Belgium ||3.8% ||2.7% ||8.15% ||3.57% ||5.78% ||5.36% |
|France ||2.01% ||1.08% ||2.88% ||2.27% ||5.26% ||3.50% |
|Canada ||4.9% ||7% ||6.39% ||4.22% ||4.95% ||4.50% |
|Australia ||5.2% ||4.7% ||3.83% ||4.00% ||4.33% ||3.93% |
|Slovenia || ||0.73% ||0.32% ||1.30% ||1.14% ||2.14% |
|Norway ||2.58% ||1.8% ||1.60% ||1.95% ||2.58% ||1.86% |
|Sweden ||1.08% ||1.09% ||1.44% ||1.41% ||1.75% ||1.43% |
|Ireland ||1.00% ||1.09% ||1.44% ||1.19% ||0.72% ||1.36% |
|Portugal ||1.65% ||1.8% ||2.40% ||1.52% ||1.34% ||1.14% |
|Italy || ||1.45% ||1.44% ||0.65% ||1.03% ||1.07% |
Largely the same picture as ever, with the US leading the way, the UK in second and then a sliding scale of Europeans countries. Slovenia continues to pick its way up the pile for obvious reasons! World Map to demonstrate
2. What's your age?
| ||u17 ||17-19 ||20-25 ||26-30 ||31-35 ||36-40 ||41-50 ||51+ ||Total |
|2015 ||2.22% ||12.04% ||41.51% ||24.66% ||10.68% ||4.87% ||2.94% ||1.08% ||1395 |
|2016 ||1.5% ||8.9% ||40.8% ||24% ||12% ||5.4% ||5.2% ||2% ||887 |
|2018 Mar ||1% ||7.1% ||33.5% ||27.4% ||16.2% ||7% ||5.7% ||2.1% ||617 |
|2018 Aug ||1.7% ||9% ||33.9% ||26.4% ||15.5% ||7% ||5% ||1.5% ||905 |
|2019 ||1.5% ||6.6% ||33.2% ||27.5% ||16.4% ||7.1% ||5.8% ||2% ||972 |
|2020 ||1.3% ||6.8% ||31.7% ||28% ||16.6% ||7.2% ||5% ||2.5% ||1420 |
Pretty much the same as last year, with the usual reddit demographics of majority 20 somethings dominating.
3. What's your gender?
| ||'13 ||'14 ||'15 ||'16 ||'18 (1) ||'18 (2) ||'19 ||'20 |
|Male ||97.2% ||97% ||94.9% ||93.4% ||93.3% ||93.6% ||95.1% ||94.9% |
|Female ||2.8% ||2.7% ||4.8% ||5.3% ||5.3% ||5.4% ||3.7% ||4.8% |
|Other ||- ||0.33% ||0.29% ||0.78% ||0.76% ||- ||- || |
|Non-Binary ||- ||- ||- ||- ||0.64% ||0.99% ||1.2% ||0.4% |
More normality here for reddit.
4. How much of the men's season do you watch/follow?
|Type ||March '18 (%) ||August '18 (%) ||2019 (%) ||2020 (%) |
|Grand Tours ||84.7 ||92.0 ||90.2 ||87.3 |
|Monuments ||79.1 ||74.9 ||79 ||75.9 |
|WT Stage races ||67.4 ||62.4 ||70.5 ||71.7 |
|WT One day races ||73.3 ||59.8 ||62.3 ||60.7 |
|Non WT Stage races ||32.6 ||16.7 ||17.4 ||25 |
|Non WT One day races ||34.8 ||13.7 ||17.4 ||20.7 |
|Literally everything I can consume ||35.9 ||18.1 ||21.1 ||27.1 |
Whilst GT following may be down (somehow), all the lower level stuff is up, which makes sense considering how desperate we have been for any
racing during the season shutdown.
5. Do you maintain an interest in women's professional road racing?
|Do you maintain an interest in women's professional road racing? ||'19 ||'20 |
|Yes ||49.8 ||49.2 |
|No ||50.2 ||50.8 |
Still very much a half/half interest in women's cycling on the subreddit.
6. How much of the women's season do you follow?
The following is true for the half of you that follows womens cycling.
|How Much ||% |
|Just the biggest televised events ||63.15% |
|Most of the live televised/delayed coverage stuff ||29.08% |
|All televised racing ||5.09% |
|Down to .Pro & beyond ||2.69% |
7. How long have you been watching cycling?
|How Long ||% |
|Under a year ||2,95% |
|1-3 years ||19,50% |
|4-6 years ||19,85% |
|7-9 years ||14,10% |
|10-12 years ||13,81% |
|13-15 years ||7,15% |
|15-20 years ||10,73% |
|20-25 years ||6,17% |
|25 years + ||5,75% |
Simplified the years a little this time, but whilst we have a fair number of newbies, most people have picked the sport up since around 2013/14.
8. Do you have like/dislike feelings about WT teams?
Once more, 14.4% of people really don't have feelings on the subject.
Of those that do:
| ||AG2R ||Astana ||Bahrain ||Bora ||CCC ||Cofidis ||Quick-Step ||EF ||FDJ |
|Like ||352 ||213 ||127 ||770 ||156 ||116 ||847 ||724 ||423 |
|Meh ||775 ||620 ||773 ||415 ||889 ||896 ||310 ||448 ||700 |
|Dislike ||52 ||356 ||263 ||31 ||112 ||141 ||71 ||37 ||53 |
|Karma ||300 ||-143 ||-70 ||739 ||44 ||-25 ||776 ||677 ||370 |
| ||Israel ||Lotto ||Michelton ||Movistar ||NTT ||Ineos ||Jumbo ||Sunweb ||Trek ||UAE |
|Like ||135 ||364 ||517 ||231 ||101 ||304 ||925 ||279 ||383 ||118 |
|Meh ||740 ||764 ||626 ||646 ||931 ||414 ||282 ||805 ||765 ||734 |
|Dislike ||302 ||40 ||52 ||326 ||121 ||562 ||53 ||97 ||42 ||331 |
|Karma ||-167 ||324 ||465 ||-95 ||-20 ||-258 ||872 ||182 ||341 ||-213 |
So, the most popular team this year is Jumbo-Visma, followed by Quick-Step & Bora-hansgrohe. Least popular are Ineos & UAE.
As per usual, no one cares about NTT & CCC, with nearly 81% of users rating NTT as meh. Pretty damning stuff.
Lastly, we have the usual historical comparison of how teams have fared over time, normalised to respondents to that question on the survey
Things to note then, firstly that the Astana redemption arc is over, seeing them back in the negative, maybe Fulgsangs spring issues helped aid that? The petrodollar teams of UAE & Bahrain are stubbornly negative too, with Israel keeping up the Katusha negative streak. Meanwhile, at the top end, EF & Jumbo go from strength to strength, whilst some others like Sunweb are sliding over time - their transfer policies no doubt helping that.
10. Do you ride a bike regularly?
|Answer ||2018Mar ||2018Aug ||2019 ||2020 |
|For fun ||61.5% ||63.4% ||59.9% ||62.9% |
|For fitness ||59.3% ||59.6% ||54.8% ||59.8% |
|For commuting ||46% ||46% ||45.6% ||40% |
|For racing ||20.6% ||20.6% ||15.9% ||17.7% |
|No, I don't ||14.2% ||12.9% ||14.8% ||13.6% |
Still a fairly small group of racers out of all of us
11. Out of the sports you practice, is cycling your favourite?
A new addition to the survey prompted by a good point last time, just over half of us rate cycling as the favourite sport we actually do.
12. What other sports do you follow?
|Sport ||# |
|Association Football / Soccer ||50.78% |
|Formula 1 ||35.81% |
|American Football ||26.27% |
|Basketball ||22.46% |
|Track & Field ||17.58% |
|Esports (yes, this includes DotA) ||17.30% |
|Rugby ||14.27% |
|Skiing ||14.12% |
|Ice Hockey ||13.63% |
|Baseball ||12.15% |
|Motorsports (Not including F1) ||10.59% |
|Cricket ||10.52% |
|Tennis ||9.53% |
|Chess ||8.97% |
|Triathlon ||8.69% |
|Biathlon ||8.12% |
|Snooker ||7.06% |
|Golf ||6.92% |
|Swimming ||6.85% |
|Ski Jumping ||6.78% |
|Climbing ||5.72% |
|Martial Arts ||5.65% |
|Handball ||5.44% |
|Darts ||5.01% |
|Speed Skating ||5.01% |
Football always tops the charts, and Formula 1 continues to rank extremely highly among our userbase. Those who have a little following below 5% include Sailing, Fencing, Surfing, Boxing & Ultra-Running. Other cycling disciplines
|Sport ||# |
|Cyclocross ||22.10% |
|Track Cycling ||14.34% |
|MTB ||8.97% |
|BMX ||1.20% |
13. Out of the sports you follow, is cycling your favourite sport?
Good. Makes sense if you hang out here.
14. How often do you participate in a /Peloton Race Thread whilst watching a race?
| ||2015 ||2016 ||2018Mar ||2018Aug ||2019 ||2020 |
|I always participate in Race Threads during races ||2.8% ||2% ||2.2% ||4% ||2.5% ||3% |
|I follow Race Threads during races ||41.7% ||36.7% ||38.1% ||42.1% ||42.5% ||38.9% |
|I often participate in Race Threads during races ||16.8% ||19% ||16.5% ||18.9% ||15.2% ||13% |
|I rarely/never participate in Race Threads during races ||38.7% ||41.3% ||43.1% ||35% ||39.8% ||45.1% |
Slightly less invested than before, reverting back to an older trade.
15. How do you watch Races?
|Method ||2018Mar ||2018Aug ||2019 ||2020 |
|Pirate Streams ||62% ||46.5% ||50.2% ||47.9% |
|Free Local TV ||55.7% ||64.5% ||59.6% ||53.9% |
|Desperately scrabbling for Youtube highlights ||37.9% ||30.2% ||28.2% ||24.9% |
|Paid Streaming services ||32.3% ||35.4% ||38.3% ||46.3% |
Year on year, paid streaming services go up - the increasing availability of live content legally continues to improve, and so do the numbers on the survey.
16. Where else do you follow races live (in addition to watching them)?
|Type ||2018Mar ||2018Aug ||2019 ||2020 |
|/Peloton race threads ||86.2% ||83.4% ||80.2% ||76.9% |
|Twitter ||30.5% ||34.7% ||33.3% ||38.3% |
|PCS Liveticker ||- ||- ||30.2% ||32% |
|Official tracker (if available) || || || ||24% |
|The Cyclingnews liveticker ||26% ||23.5% ||21.5% ||18.9% |
|Sporza (site/ticker) ||1.89% ||9.5% ||10.8% ||10.8% |
|NOS Liveblog ||- ||6.8% ||7% ||9.2% |
|Steephill ||0.52% ||13.5% ||10.2% ||8.2% |
|/Peloton discord ||6.5% ||5.4% ||7.5% ||7.2% |
|Other cycling forums ||15.1% ||8.1% ||7.6% ||7% |
|feltet.dk ||- ||2.2% ||5.4% ||5.2% |
|Facebook ||3.8% ||5.4% ||4% ||4.2% |
|BBC Ticker ||- ||3.5% ||2.1% ||4.1% |
|DirectVelo ||- ||1.3% ||1.6% ||1.8% |
|Non Cycling Forums ||- ||1.3% ||1.2% ||1.2% |
|/cyc/ ||- ||1.3% ||1% ||0.6% |
|/peloton IRC ||~0 ||0.8% ||0.4% ||0.5% |
The PCS liveticker continues to have a strong following, whilst the cyclingnews ticker slowly slides into less usage over time.
17. Do you use /Peloton mostly in classic reddit or redesign when on the desktop?
|Type ||2018 Aug ||2019 ||2020 |
|Classic ||75.1% ||67.2% ||46.2% |
|Redesign ||24.9% ||32.8% ||53.8% |
Time to abandon ship. The end has come.
18. With what version of reddit do you browse the sub?
|Version ||2019 ||2020 |
|Official App ||17.9 ||31.1 |
|Desktop Classic ||37.8 ||25.8 |
|3rd Party App ||18.3 ||17.2 |
|Mobile Web ||12.4 ||14.7 |
|Desktop Redesign ||13.7 ||11.2 |
Phone browsing is very much in vogue.
19. How did you find the sub?
|How ||% |
|Through other forms of reddit, f.e. /bicycling ||48.33% |
|Too long - can't remember ||38.65% |
|Google search ||9,11% |
|My friend told me ||2,28% |
|I wanted to talk about my exercise bike ||0.78% |
|Twitter ||0.5% |
|Lantern Rouge Youtube ||0.28% |
Other bits and bobs
20. Did you think back in March we would see any more racing this year?
Despite the threat, we have seen racing again
21. Will we manage to fulfill the rest of the UCI calendar without further Covid-19 issues postponing more races?
Sorry to you 25%, Amstel, Roubaix & a bunch of other races have falled foul of COVID-19 related cancellations.
22. When did you become aware of Alexander Foliforov?
|When ||% |
|Before the 2016 Giro ||3,25% |
|22nd May, 2016 ||15,55% |
|On /pelotonmemes in 2020 ||21,13% |
|Who? ||60,07% |
If you didn't know of the man, watching him demolish the Giro field in 2016 on the stage 15 ITT should help to gain understanding
23. Who will win the 2020 Tour de France?
|Rider ||% |
|Roglic ||52,12% |
|Bernal ||16,57% |
|Pinot ||9,24% |
|Dumoulin ||7,9% |
|N.Quintana ||2,82% |
|Pogacar ||1,41% |
|Richie Porte ||0,35% |
We can safely say that most of us were wrong about this one.
That's not a lot of confidence in Richie Porte either, the man who was to finish on the third spot of the podium. Alexander Foliforov (0,23%) had just a tiny number of votes less, and that man wasn't even in the race.
24. What for you was the defining cycling moment of the previous decade?
We had a lot of brilliant suggestions, but these were the clear five favourites when we tabulated the results.
- 2018 Giro - Chris Froome Solo Attack
- 2016 TDF - Chris Froome Running up Ventoux
- 2019 TDF - Landslides, First Columbian Winner, Pinot's bitter abandon - This was one race for the ages
- 2016 Paris-Roubaix - Mostly known for Tom Boonen losing. Also, some guy called Mat won.
- 2019 AGR - MvdP with his incredible catch-up for the win.
Honorable mentions go to the Giro 2018, which had Tom Dumoulin winning, and of almost identical fascination to many of you - Tom Dumoulin going on someones porta-potty in the middle of the stage.
Little bit of recency bias perhaps, but that's better than ignoring that this was for the last decade and firmly insisting Tom Boonens 2005 WC win was the biggest thing. Special shoutout to almost all the Danes present in /peloton
who voted for Mads Pedersens WC win last year. It's an understandable reaction.
25. Any suggestions for the Survey? New Questions
- Could you add a section on rider popularity, same as for the teams?
- Ask how people became interested in cycling
- Ask how people watch cycling (e.g. TV Channels/Streaming etc.)
- If you could be an animal for one day, which one would it be?
- Would you wear a facemask while watching a cycling race live?
- Which race do you look forward to see the most every year?
- Favourite riders of your own country?
- How many bikes do you own?
We promise to feature one of these suggestions in the next survey Suggestions
- Always have a “no” or “not interested” option
We will try to implement this. But it will also skew results. About the Survey
- More questions about womens cycling would be nice.
- Less questions about womens cycling
The subscribers are torn on Women's cycling, nearly a 50/50 split there as the survey showed - The moderators at /peloton
are firmly in the "more cycling is better" basket, and we will continue to get as good coverage of womens cycling as possible.
Are you trying to give the moderators PTSD? Because this is how you give the moderators PTSD.
26. Any suggestions for the sub?
- More stationary fitness bike related content
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The Weekly threads are great for these types of questions, where several people can contribute and build up once it is understood which information is relevant.
- Allow limited doping talk in result threads.
Our experience is that "limited" will never be so, if we're going to moderate it fairly. Moderating is not a popularity contest, but believe it or not, we're actually trying to be as fair as possible. and for that, we need rules that are not subjective. Unless you have a stationary exercise bike.
- Written original content is always great - recaps, old race reviews or interesting rider bios, etc.
- More non-race threads
- Podcast discussion?
- Try and do some AMAs with pro cyclists, coaches, trainers, etc
All of these are good suggestions, but remember that all of you can also contribute - The mods are sometimes stretched thin, specially in the middle of hectic race schedules. It's easier if one of you has a way to contact a rider or a person of interest and can facilitate the initial communication.
- Standardize major event thread titles for better search.
We've worked on this! The Official Standard is now as follows: [Race Thread] 202x Race Name – Stage X (Class)
- A wiki that explains how races work. Roles of diff riders/support staff. History of racing.
This sounds as a nice community project for the after-season, and hopefully many of you subscribers can contribute.
Come with suggestions on how to tidy it up!
- Don't assume everyone reading is a man, "thanks, bro". But that goes for all of Reddit. I know you can't fix that.
We have chastised all the mods. They are now perfectly trained in gender-neutral pronouns. Be well, fellow being.
- Have a buy you a beer link for the mods for all the work you do.
If we can implement this for hard liquor, you know we will.
- Remove the spoiler rule during grand tours. It kills the hype.
The spoiler rule is one that is discussed frequently - in general - some users absolutely hate it, but a majority love it. Perhaps we'll include a question in the next survey to see how this divide is exactly.
- Lose the spoiler tag when it is for serious things; Lambrecht death, Jakobsen fall.
We actually do - whenever there is a matter of life or death, we think public information is more important than a spoiler rule. But at the same time, we try to collect all the different posts into one main thread, so to keep things focused and letting very speculative posts meet with hard evidence from other sources.
- Less downvoting of opinions that differ from the fashionable consensus.
This is a tough ask of the internet. While we can agree that voting should be done accordingly to what insights they bring, not subjective opinions, it is very hard to turn that type of thinking around. We can ask of you, our subscribers, that you please think twice about hitting that downvote button, and only do so because of you think a post is factually incorrect, not because it differs with your own subjective opinion.
That's the primary analysis of the survey! Feel free to contribute with how you experience things here!
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